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| 07-10-15 06:33 | HybridStorm | even if you may get a free upgrade... nor worth the risk |
| 07-10-15 06:33 | message144 | not worth upgradig or buying tiger right now? |
| 07-10-15 06:33 | HybridStorm | no worth buying tiger right now |
| 07-10-15 06:33 | message144 | why do you think that? |
| 07-10-15 06:33 | message144 | oh yes i agree |
| 07-10-15 06:34 | message144 | yeah i guess ill just hold out |
| 07-10-15 06:35 | message144 | I would that apple should ship a full install disc when you buy a machine.. all i got was a stupid recovery disc |
| 07-10-15 06:46 | LSD` | message144 the discs they give you are closer to full install discs than what you typically get with PC lasptops P |
| 07-10-15 06:48 | eromero | well my hp laptop had both recovery and full install discs -D |
| 07-10-15 06:50 | message144 | Do you think its better to zero out a new disc or is that unnecessary? |
| 07-10-15 06:51 | LSD` | Dell give you full install disks too but it's far from the norm. Most just give you image recovery discs or worse yet, no discs at all and just a partition with the image recovery software on it |
| 07-10-15 06:55 | dustman | eu might be first to enforce hardware only sales |
| 07-10-15 06:56 | dustman | last months anti-ms ruling was interesting |
| 07-10-15 07:41 | jimboroberts | Hi all, quick question, you know when you create a smart folder and lets say create it to hold all of the flagged mail... it pops up with a count... but if you split that folder into 2 lets say one received that week and another received that month then the count does display. Is there anyway of getting it to display? |
| 07-10-15 07:43 | dustman | click on it |
| 07-10-15 07:56 | jimboroberts | click on it |
| 07-10-15 07:56 | jimboroberts | ? |
| 07-10-15 07:57 | jimboroberts | that will show what's in it nicely, but not the count... |
| 07-10-15 08:00 | dustman | well, click on it and then on 'inbox' f.ex. |
| 07-10-15 08:00 | dustman | should work |
| 07-10-15 08:01 | dustman | real-time updates suck in both smart folders and Finder |
| 07-10-15 08:10 | jimboroberts | so it should show a count for any smart mailbox? |
| 07-10-15 09:54 | bushwakko | I have the strangest problem here now, if I click on a link with my external mouse it wants to download that link even if its .htm or .html or whatever |
| 07-10-15 09:54 | bushwakko | touchpad works |
| 07-10-15 09:55 | brokenjago | whoa |
| 07-10-15 09:55 | brokenjago | that is weird. |
| 07-10-15 09:56 | bushwakko | left mouse on external mouse works perfectly everywhere else |
| 07-10-15 09:56 | Jazarus | this is buzz lightyear signing out.. |
| 07-10-15 09:56 | bushwakko | no wait, it doesn't |
| 07-10-15 09:56 | bushwakko | it doesn't work in colloquy |
| 07-10-15 09:59 | brokenjago | lol |
| 07-10-15 09:59 | brokenjago | That's because colloqy is satan. |
| 07-10-15 10:28 | AngryAnt | ACTION does a few ave marias and hugs X Chat "No worries. The satanic client signed off..." |
| 07-10-15 10:30 | HybridStorm | does anyone know anything about nmap? |
| 07-10-15 10:30 | HybridStorm | NmapFE in this case |
| 07-10-15 11:24 | nike234 | how can i create files with a leading fullstop? |
| 07-10-15 11:24 | nike234 | i need to create a .autotest file in my root |
| 07-10-15 11:24 | dustman | touch .blahblah |
| 07-10-15 11:24 | nike234 | it wont let me it says they are used by the system |
| 07-10-15 11:24 | dustman | sudo touch .blahblah |
| 07-10-15 11:26 | nike234 | thanks |
| 07-10-15 11:26 | dustman | np |
| 07-10-15 11:27 | dustman | btw, / is not the best place to put your files |
| 07-10-15 11:35 | nike234 | is it possible to prevent a mac (latest version) from remembering what finder windows you had open when u restarted |
| 07-10-15 11:35 | nike234 | its annoying having those windows popup again when i dont need them |
| 07-10-15 12:03 | PolicyBased | How can I execute a shell script, when the user double clicks with the mouse? |
| 07-10-15 12:11 | PolicyBased | I tried to create a bundle which contains a info.plist CFBundleExecutable string myscript.sh, but this doesn't work. |
| 07-10-15 12:12 | santaji | Yo |
| 07-10-15 12:12 | santaji | i have a qustion about my macbook pro |
| 07-10-15 12:13 | santaji | is it normal for the apple logo to suddenly light up when the laptop is on stand by, and the lid is closed? |
| 07-10-15 12:13 | santaji | 01??????? |
| 07-10-15 12:14 | santaji | 01is it normal or my apple logo to light up for a few sec's when the laptop is on standby and the lid is closed? |
| 07-10-15 12:15 | santaji | 01there's are like 100 people in this, but everyone's dead. |
| 07-10-15 12:15 | santaji | 01aaw crap |
| 07-10-15 12:34 | Pc_Dark | if i buy a MacBook, can I buy the ram from newegg instead of paying for super expensive ram? |
| 07-10-15 12:35 | Pc_Dark | like I want 2gigs so can I just buy that off new egg |
| 07-10-15 12:46 | IronRoses | I just had my first ever crash on my mac |
| 07-10-15 12:47 | Pc_Dark | =\ |
| 07-10-15 12:48 | IronRoses | after using boot camp i clicked restart computer......it went dark blue andthis message came up saying please push down the power button for a couple of seconds to restart your computer |
| 07-10-15 12:48 | IronRoses | in a way i'm excited about it.... |
| 07-10-15 12:49 | IronRoses | it's a bit like making neww software, you'd rather have it crash on you than the user and you egt exicted about it because you caught the bug first |
| 07-10-15 12:49 | Rawh | hehe |
| 07-10-15 12:49 | Rawh | i like bug hunting |
| 07-10-15 12:49 | IronRoses | I can't get enough of it..lol |
| 07-10-15 12:49 | Rawh | but i'd rather do that with websites that have been coded from scratch cause its not like you can seriously brake things with that |
| 07-10-15 12:49 | IronRoses | yeh, i recently found out how crap the mac is for music production... |
| 07-10-15 12:50 | IronRoses | ...and don't say "hey use garageband" because thats hardly professional and not really good for producing at all |
| 07-10-15 12:50 | Rawh | ACTION is becoming a network security specialist... i'm quite aware already what can go horribly wrong and i'd rather prevent that then fix it, when it happens ) |
| 07-10-15 12:51 | IronRoses | well i sent thye report off to apple, I doubt they'lll really care about it since leopard will be out at the end opf this month |
| 07-10-15 12:52 | IronRoses | I wa sshwoing my mate expos'e erlier and he said "ok, so I don't like macs but yeh thats pretty impressive" |
| 07-10-15 12:53 | IronRoses | I gotta buy myself another mouse because the problem I have is that the mouse wheel doesn't roll up....it rarely works...... |
| 07-10-15 12:57 | Pc_Dark | i would so get a mac if it was the same price for hardware as HP ( |
| 07-10-15 13:04 | IronRoses | Iv'e only recently switch.... |
| 07-10-15 13:05 | IronRoses | ...and i'd never think about buying an HP computer becaus ethey are dog shit...build your own |
| 07-10-15 13:11 | IronRoses | whats the free custom boot manager called for os x? |
| 07-10-15 13:11 | IronRoses | EFI something boot manager |
| 07-10-15 13:13 | soneil | refit springs to mind? |
| 07-10-15 13:13 | Pc_Dark | how much discount can I get on a mac |
| 07-10-15 13:14 | IronRoses | thanks, I found it |
| 07-10-15 13:16 | IronRoses | you won't get a discount if you don't go to an american college |
| 07-10-15 13:16 | IronRoses | anyway i oubt it's much anyway |
| 07-10-15 13:17 | IronRoses | your better off going on to ebay anmd having a look around |
| 07-10-15 13:17 | teknofonix | or apple refurbished |
| 07-10-15 13:17 | Pc_Dark | ebay |
| 07-10-15 13:18 | IronRoses | I'm looking for a 30Gb refurbished ipod right now, I'll be damned if i'm gonna pay that much for a 30Gb ipod, I can get the same amount of space from a zen touch for half the price |
| 07-10-15 13:18 | Pc_Dark | if i ebay is it still a legal copy of OS X |
| 07-10-15 13:18 | IronRoses | yep |
| 07-10-15 13:19 | IronRoses | yeh, the zen touch 30Gb also plays videos....and has a slightly bigger screen than the ipod classic |
| 07-10-15 13:19 | IronRoses | and....it came out waaay before the ipod did |
| 07-10-15 13:19 | teknofonix | its butt ugly |
| 07-10-15 13:19 | IronRoses | so yet again apple lies to it's customers by saying "hey, we are innovitive" |
| 07-10-15 13:20 | Pc_Dark | what are iMac's going for on ebay |
| 07-10-15 13:20 | Pc_Dark | I have a $1300 budget |
| 07-10-15 13:20 | Pc_Dark | I want the most for my money. |
| 07-10-15 13:21 | teknofonix | get a mac mini - new |
| 07-10-15 13:21 | IronRoses | it really annoys me the way steve jobs does the keynotes. Even if apple came out with a shoe rack that play music every time you palce shoes on it steve would styill say "this is the most innovitive thing apple has bought out and doesn't it look gorgeous" and all the idiots in the audience still bloody clap like seals |
| 07-10-15 13:21 | Pc_Dark | yes but it only has a 2ghz proc...is that fast enough? |
| 07-10-15 13:21 | Pc_Dark | IronRoses, he's a marketing GENIUS |
| 07-10-15 13:22 | teknofonix | fast enough for what? |
| 07-10-15 13:22 | IronRoses | like iv'e said before the only thing that is stopping me from selling this mac is i just love OS X |
| 07-10-15 13:23 | Pc_Dark | I don't know...just productive |
| 07-10-15 13:23 | Pc_Dark | I like to get work done fast |
| 07-10-15 13:23 | Pc_Dark | and linux is a pain |
| 07-10-15 13:23 | Pc_Dark | and windows crashes |
| 07-10-15 13:23 | teknofonix | of course |
| 07-10-15 13:23 | Pc_Dark | will osx do what I need |
| 07-10-15 13:23 | Pc_Dark | not crash and not be a pain ? |
| 07-10-15 13:23 | teknofonix | get a mac mini and cheap out on monitor and stuff |
| 07-10-15 13:24 | Pc_Dark | i am using my 1080p television for monitor |
| 07-10-15 13:24 | IronRoses | well when apple say os x never crashs that ain't true |
| 07-10-15 13:24 | Pc_Dark | so i dont need monitor |
| 07-10-15 13:24 | teknofonix | just a cable i beleive |
| 07-10-15 13:24 | Pc_Dark | i have a dvi->hdmi cable |
| 07-10-15 13:24 | teknofonix | add a plasma later) |
| 07-10-15 13:24 | Pc_Dark | my tv is plasma |
| 07-10-15 13:25 | teknofonix | bah |
| 07-10-15 13:25 | Pc_Dark | so i guess mac mini is good |
| 07-10-15 13:25 | teknofonix | i have a macbook |
| 07-10-15 13:25 | teknofonix | its amazing |
| 07-10-15 13:25 | dustman | Pc_Dark, since your use of mac is secret, we can't say if mac mini is enough |
| 07-10-15 13:25 | teknofonix | and its not even pro |
| 07-10-15 13:26 | IronRoses | pc_dark your better off going on to ebay and buying yourself a intel mac.....20" whatever you can afford |
| 07-10-15 13:26 | dustman | c'mon, you can get new imac for these money |
| 07-10-15 13:27 | teknofonix | pc dark already has peripherals though as I understand it |
| 07-10-15 13:27 | sbbath | ACTION isn't running iTunes currently. |
| 07-10-15 13:28 | IronRoses | ok, heres a question for you all, steve has billions, why doesn't he give some to charity.....bill gates does.... |
| 07-10-15 13:29 | dustman | #1 he doesn't want to |
| 07-10-15 13:29 | dustman | #2 why should he? |
| 07-10-15 13:30 | teknofonix | because he is not the devils spawn |
| 07-10-15 13:30 | IronRoses | because he's a self obssessed prick and lets face itguys, I mean come on all he cares about is himself, wow, he's neearly on par with bill gates... |
| 07-10-15 13:31 | teknofonix | hehe..add quite a few others to that list |
| 07-10-15 13:32 | Branes | Jobs is a stubborn, arrogant ass. Gates is a stubborn petulant ass. The former did acid, the latter never even gets drunk. Your question? ) |
| 07-10-15 13:32 | dustman | IronRoses, socialism and communism are both myths |
| 07-10-15 13:34 | IronRoses | what really annoys me are the prices apple charges for their computers, ok so there neat and tidy and all in one (unless you buy the mac pro) but what most people say is "oh there fast and stable" but both pc and mac now use the same hardware, so how can one be faster than the other, infact macs will always be behind pc's....that will never change but yet again the only thing that is keeping it all together is OS X..... |
| 07-10-15 13:35 | KingNato | Maybe Jobs likes having billions? I sure would |
| 07-10-15 13:35 | IronRoses | it' like why i bought a mac in the first place to get away from the os before, windows.....not for the hardware |
| 07-10-15 13:36 | Pc_Dark | It feels better to give stuff away really, KingNato |
| 07-10-15 13:36 | Pc_Dark | I'm only getting a mac 'cause of OS X |
| 07-10-15 13:36 | Pc_Dark | really just 'cause it looks so sexy |
| 07-10-15 13:37 | IronRoses | ooo it is sexy....and stable and faster than windows |
| 07-10-15 13:37 | Pc_Dark | It is? |
| 07-10-15 13:37 | KingNato | I already give away about 50% of my pay to the government, and do I feel any better for it? Nope P |
| 07-10-15 13:38 | Pc_Dark | KingNato, no, to people that can't even eat |
| 07-10-15 13:38 | IronRoses | I like many others was bought in buy those adverts apple ran on tv......no trial software, no virus's.....no whatever else....wait a minute, a lie here, no trial software? yeh right, there is trial software in OS X, Iwork 08 thats trial software.... |
| 07-10-15 13:38 | Pc_Dark | is iLife 08 included? |
| 07-10-15 13:38 | KingNato | Pc_Dark Well, that's what the government claim they take my money for, people who are poor |
| 07-10-15 13:38 | IronRoses | I wouldv'e thought so but it's nothing to get excited about to be honest... |
| 07-10-15 13:39 | Pc_Dark | KingNato, the government does not donate to charity really at all |
| 07-10-15 13:39 | Pc_Dark | please do not believe everything the government says |
| 07-10-15 13:39 | Pc_Dark | but then again, I don't think they are doing bad things with the money we give them |
| 07-10-15 13:39 | Pc_Dark | but, I digress |
| 07-10-15 13:39 | KingNato | Pc_Dark Well, first of all, I'm in Sweden so my government in fact does rather a lot more for the poor than does the US government |
| 07-10-15 13:40 | IronRoses | I need a smoke |
| 07-10-15 13:40 | IronRoses | enojoy the pease whilst i am gone |
| 07-10-15 13:40 | IronRoses | i'll come back with some more crap for you lot to digest |
| 07-10-15 13:41 | IronRoses | and more typos...lol |
| 07-10-15 13:41 | Pc_Dark | KingNato, how do you know? |
| 07-10-15 13:41 | Pc_Dark | we give to Darfur and such too |
| 07-10-15 13:42 | IronRoses | ...they say people never switch when they buy a mac, well i bloody am.....after the life of this mac, about 5 years time I think |
| 07-10-15 13:42 | IronRoses | anyway brb |
| 07-10-15 13:43 | teknofonix | Pc_Dark iLife should be included IMHO along with the pro Quicktime but I guess ithe cash Cow needs milking |
| 07-10-15 13:44 | KingNato | Pc_Dark The US gives about a third of a percent of GDP i (government) foreign aid, Sweden about 1 percent |
| 07-10-15 13:44 | KingNato | If you add charitable the US gets closer but I think still behind |
| 07-10-15 13:45 | teknofonix | i use opensource apps on my mac wherever possible (which is for just about most things) |
| 07-10-15 13:45 | brokenjago | teknofonix If they included both iLife and Quicktime pro, would you be willing to pay more? Say, $189? |
| 07-10-15 13:45 | KingNato | ACTION realises this isn't the channel he thought it was and quiets down |
| 07-10-15 13:45 | brokenjago | KingNato lol. |
| 07-10-15 13:46 | teknofonix | nope - i am a mythological beast and beleive in the ethics of people like richard stallman - sorry) |
| 07-10-15 13:46 | dustman | KingNato, social discussions are mostly pointless while quite heated |
| 07-10-15 13:47 | brokenjago | teknofonix I see. So you pirate software? |
| 07-10-15 13:47 | KingNato | dustman They can be fun and sometimes someone learns something |
| 07-10-15 13:47 | teknofonix | ha....of course not...the opposite |
| 07-10-15 13:47 | brokenjago | KingNato Sometimes. *sometimes* |
| 07-10-15 13:47 | brokenjago | teknofonix Good stuff. i hate it when people are all "GNU RULES!" |
| 07-10-15 13:47 | dustman | KingNato, in that case i'm liberalist and think ppl should pay for everything |
| 07-10-15 13:47 | brokenjago | and then turn around and go pirate photoshop or something |
| 07-10-15 13:48 | Pc_Dark | how nice is the 20" apple display |
| 07-10-15 13:48 | brokenjago | Pc_Dark not very. |
| 07-10-15 13:48 | dustman | good enough |
| 07-10-15 13:48 | brokenjago | "good enough" for $700 doesn't cut it for me > |
| 07-10-15 13:49 | dustman | ah, you mean separate display |
| 07-10-15 13:49 | dustman | drop it in that case |
| 07-10-15 13:49 | brokenjago | ACTION bought his much nicer higher contrast ratio higher brightness 1" bigger samsung display with a ton more inputs and PiP for $479 |
| 07-10-15 13:49 | brokenjago | also, much higher response time. |
| 07-10-15 13:50 | Pc_Dark | but is it pretty |
| 07-10-15 13:50 | brokenjago | translation Except for the 30", Apple displays are horrendous value. |
| 07-10-15 13:50 | brokenjago | lol, true dat |
| 07-10-15 13:50 | brokenjago | if you're willing to pay the premium for looks and matching,. something which I can and do relate with |
| 07-10-15 13:50 | Pc_Dark | apple makes pretty stuff |
| 07-10-15 13:50 | brokenjago | by all means, do so |
| 07-10-15 13:50 | Pc_Dark | thats the only reason I'm getting a mac |
| 07-10-15 13:50 | Pc_Dark | ;p |
| 07-10-15 13:50 | brokenjago | if you're looking for value, look somewhere else. |
| 07-10-15 13:50 | brokenjago | lol |
| 07-10-15 13:51 | Pc_Dark | I need easy on the eyes |
| 07-10-15 13:51 | brokenjago | so |
| 07-10-15 13:51 | brokenjago | http//www.mininova.org/tor/937420 <<-- real or fake? |
| 07-10-15 13:52 | KingNato | I think the last time the 20" cinema display was good was about when they first released the metallic one, and even then it was overpriced |
| 07-10-15 13:52 | Pc_Dark | is the 24" display nice? |
| 07-10-15 13:53 | brokenjago | what 24" display |
